User talk:Cococrash11

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Heart of Innocence page
Hello, Cococrash11~. I'm .Seshat., a fellow D.Gray-Man wikia editor, and I'm just here to ask one thing... Please do not copypatse information from one page and then make a new page to post said copypasted there. We do not have nearly enough information on the Heart for it to have it's own page; having the information on just the Innocence page is enough for now, and just taking information from one page and putting it on an otherwise completely blank one is nothing short of redundant.

Just so you are aware, I will be messaging an admin and asking that the page be deleted. T.T Please do not take this as a personal attack... I've just been doing quite a bit of cleanup lately, and I'm afraid that the page you added meets the criterion of pages that should be deleted. .Seshat. 05:38, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

I wasn't the one who made the decision to give specific Innocence their own pages; that was the work of an admin, and it's not something I entirely agree with... But for the sake of my defense, we have much more information on Allen's Innocence, all of which can be referenced, and what's more we have pictures and statistics. The Heart has only ever been mentioned in passing on most accounts, and explained in a handful of panels. It's too ambiguous; I'm sure in the coming chapters we'll get more information (with the appearance of Apocryphos and all that), but for now there's no reason it should have it's own page. .Seshat.

God page
Again, we have absolutely nothing to put on that page. No pictures, no content, no references, no character biography... I mean, if we're going to include God, we'll have to do Satan, the Anti-Christ, Raphael, Gabriel, Metatron... the entire pantheon of Heaven, not to mention Adam, Eve, and all of the other people from the Bible. You can't make a character page for a character who is never introduced. Yes, He's mentioned, but He's always mentioned in stories that involve Catholicism. You can't do a story that includes Catholicism and not have Him in it, but that doesn't necessarily make Him an integral character.

And we can't just slap in information about the real world concept of God, because look at what Hoshino's done to Noah. She's turned him into a villain, when the Bible clearly labels him as a savior. And after that, trust me, it's highly unlikely she'll have God make an appearance. Very, very few mangaka who use Catholicism in their stories do. And even if she does, He probably won't even have a face, and it won't happen for a while. Until it does happen, which it probably won't, there's no way the God page can progress.

(droops) I'm sorry... I'm not trying to be harsh, I'm just trying to express my point. .Seshat. 01:51, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

If you'll notice, spatters of Noah are mentioned all over the Noah Family page, but Noah, himself, doesn't have his own page because there's not enough information about him to make a page for. All he needs is the space he's taken up on the Noah Family page, nothing more, nothing less. Because he's been dead for seven thousand years. Whatever spat he had with God holds little relevance with the main story; God has had spats with lots of people over the years, some simply because He's God.

And God is mentioned where He should be; on the Innocence page, on the Black Order page (I think... at least, He should be, somewhere...), on pages related to him directly... He's not exactly a key element, but He's definitely an omnipresent one (irony? XP).

And making a page, just to link it to the Wikipedia article? A waste of space. People know who God is, and if they don't, we can put a link to the article on a preexisting page; one that has content.

God and His dispute with Noah are explained on several pages already; we don't need a new page to reiterate it.

Another example of a character page we could but won't make (yet) would be a page for the Pope. He's mentioned several times. We know he's there (if he wasn't, who'd run the Vatican?). He's important, too; I mean, he's the Pope! But we don't have a page for him. Because we don't have enough information.

In literary analysis, they're called "unseen characters"; they're often continuing characters who influence the world a story is set in without ever actually doing something the audience can observe for themselves. They're important to the events, yes, but not necessarily as individuals. .Seshat. 02:59, March 2, 2011 (UTC)