Talk:Allen Walker

Allen Walker
Hey, just made some changes to the article and included Japanese names and pronunciations for various special attacks and forms. For some clarification on the translations and "literal kanji translations", I'll explain a bit. When Japanese is written out in kanji, it is sometimes accompanied by tiny little hiragana or katakana called furigana, which acts as a sort of reading aid or pronunciation guide. When typed out, the furigana is sometimes left out, or included in parenthesis following the original text.

These furigana are sometimes used to explain which reading of a kanji is intended, or how a person's name should be pronounced, as there are multiple pronunciations and even meanings for certain characters, especially ones used as names. They are also sometimes used when foreign names or words are translated into Japanese kanji, for example Ruy Ramos (ラモス 瑠偉(ラモス ルイ), Ramosu Rui), a Brazillian soccer star who moved to Japan, became a citizen, and adopted a kanji transliteration for his given name. Another example would be if the City of Los Angeles were translated into kanji as 天使の街, the literal Japanese for "City of Angels", it might be written as 天使の街(ロサンゼルス), Rosanzerusu, showing that the pronunciation is "Los Angeles". This sort of thing was done frequently further back in Japanese history, and was also done in reverse when foreign words were adapted into Japanese, using "furikanji" to show the Japanese translation of the word.

This is the case with the names of Allen's attacks and Innocence names. They are written out in kanji, but the furigana reading guides are given in katakana, indicating that they are supposed to be pronounced (and translated) as foreign (English) words.

In the case of the first form of his innocence, Cross. It isn't officially named by the Black Order, but Allen refers to it as "Cross". I've seen in translations that this is sometimes translated as "cross of God". This is because the kanji given, 十字架, which means "crucifix" or "cross" (referring mainly to a cross you wear), but can also be translated as "cross of God", was translated instead of the given furigana which literally states it's called "Cross".

The same has occured with Crown Clown. In the anime and other media, it is sometimes written out as 神ノ道化 (Kami no Douke, God's Clown), with the furigana dropped. In the name of the Innocence, Crown is supposed to refer to God, perhaps stating that it is "God's royal jester", or something to that extent. In occasions where it is pronounced as Kami no Douke (as speech cannot include furigana) it is to further explain the meaning behind the name. However, the term is still "Crown Clown". To my knowledge, it is always spelled as 神ノ道化（クラウン・クラウン） in the manga version.

At any rate, as further meaning can be extrapolated when the "full name" is translated, as you can see above, I have included the kanji and their literal translations in the article in cases where the literal translation is signifigantly different from the given pronunciation/translation.

Lastly, I don't have a wikia account, but my wikipedia account is WtW-Suzaku. 65.120.0.142 12:27, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't we be updating Allen's and the 14th's pages with the new info from chapter 187 or is someone already on that? ItachiZero 16:48, 18 August 2009 (UTC)ItachiZero

All the pics
Do we really need all those pics for his Anti-Akuma Weapon? It makes the page lag a little and such. Shock Dragoon Feb-19-10 7:20am (ETZ)

3rd uniform
Where did the image of Allen in the 3rd (black and red) uniform come from? Are they continuing the anime?

Profile Picture
The Profile picture was recently changed to a manga picture which i think isnt a very good choice for the article. The old profile picture wasnt the best but I think it would be much more appropriate to change it to a better screenshot from the Anime. I think a manga picture as a profile picture should only be used for manga-only characters, Since Allen is the main character I think it would be more necessary to find a good anime picture. Ruki-Chan 18:14, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

ALL profile picture changes MUST be discussed on the talk pages before being changed on the articles!!!! here are some other rules for the profiles:

If an Anime screenshot is available it must be used

Profile Pics should be of their most seen in attire with no special abilities activated

profile pics should be head and upper torso, not full length pictures - full length saved for the appearance section

Preferably pictures should be front facing or if not at a slight angle, no side on views.

Having a bad quality manga shot for the main protagonist of this series isn´t in any way good enough, however unfortunately the crown clown whilst good looking doesn´t meet the criteria either (unless he starts to spend all his time with it activated). if you have a picture you would like to put in the article put it here first. i will lock this so only admnistrators acan edit if you insist on changing this without consulting the wiki members first. Wolfwood (Shoot)  09:44, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting it to the past profile picture. I was'nt the one who changed Allens profile picture to the manga Screenshot I was simply making you aware of the change here on the discussion page. Ruki-Chan 16:17, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Race/Ethnicity
As I stated, nationality and ethnicity/Race are two different things. Nathionality is what country you are from, and ethnicity/race is obviously, what race you belong to. The two are NOT the same. With that out of the way, Allen's Race section had British in it. British is a nationality not an ethnicity however caucasian is an ethnicity which refers to white people from either the brithis isles (not including the Irish) and the USA. Allen is a white person from Britian, thus his nationality is british while his ethnicity is caucasian. EDIT: Another example, this one from real life. My Nationality is American, however if you look at my papers, my ethnicity is listed as Native American Indian. Evnyofdeath 07:54, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

New Picture for Allens Profile
OK so i know there´s been some back and forth regarding the profile picture and i´m all for changing the picture if people are particuarly unhappy with the original. I have laid out the guidlines already on the profile picture process so as par for course here are some options for a new picture. If you have any others please add them here before attempting to update the article, i would like to have at least three votes in favour of an image before going ahead with a change, we are all part of a democratic wiki after all :)

I´ve chosen these couple from episode 51 as they are good ront facing poses and Allen is in his exorcist uniform without any special powers activated or battle damage, my particular vote is going with Pic B because timcanpy is in it too and he´s like Allens Jiminy Cricket!



I think we should use his newer look from the manga. He had grown his hair out (it kinda looks like Alma's when he was young) and it looks almost nothing like it used to. Evnyofdeath 07:01, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Crowned Clown
The previous picture of Crowned Clown it had a full body color picture why replaced it? --Cococrash11 23:55, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

I'll still ask why? --Cococrash11 01:23, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Child Picture
Theres another picture of his child form when he and Mana buried Allen the Dog his appearnce is diffrent from the other of his child form. Someone please put it in this article. --Cococrash11 19:44, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Red
What does Red means in Allen (dog)? Is that his real name? --Cococrash11 19:45, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

"Red" was what Allen was called before Mana started calling him Allen; it wasn't his actual name, just a nickname given to him by his fellow circus performers. .Seshat. 19:46, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

He doesn't introduced his real name or did he just don't remeber it? --Cococrash11 19:49, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

It's not mentioned. In the fanbook, it simply says "Has no memory of his real parents. Only knew that he was an abandon child. Before activiating his Innocence at the age of 10, he couldn't move his left arm.", so he probably never had a legal first name. .Seshat. 19:54, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Strange when Allen met Cross he said when they first met he said Allen didn't say Allen Walker is his name but something esle. --Cococrash11 20:02, March 19, 2011 (UTC)