User talk:Cococrash11

RE: Asia Branch or Asian Branch
Alright, so I went and checked out several references (Dictionary.com, Wiktionary, The American Heritage Dictionary, my grandma [whose mother was an English major and English teacher]), and as wrong as it might sound to the ears, it's Asian.

Here's a definition of Asian: "Of or relating [or from] to Asia or it's people, languages or culture." (an amalgamation of the definitions from The American Heritage Dictionary and Wiktionary)

Asia by itself is a proper noun that refers to the continent, and Asian refers to anything that's from Asia. This would include the Asian Branch.

So, the grammatically correct titles of all of the branches would be as follows: European Branch, Asian Branch, North American Branch, South American Branch, Middle Eastern Branch, African Branch, and Oceanian Branch.

Clearly some changes are in order... ^.^' .Seshat. 05:25, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

In matters of grammar, it doesn't particularly matter what the manga says (unless it capitalizes words because it's redefining them, like it did with Innocence and Exorcist and other such words). The manga is not only translated (and, thus, automatically not an exact display of the mangaka's original intentions), but it also gets grammar wrong all the time. The choice between Asia and Asian is solely based in grammar, and the manga has no sway in which way it goes. .Seshat. 05:42, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

The Fanbook doesn't give the official designation in English; only in Japanese. Trust me, if it were in English in the Fanbook, this issue would have been resolved by now. .Seshat. 05:51, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Because the manga has been incorrect on so many things, ranging from grammar to the spelling of proper nouns, its an unreliable source and cannot be trusted for perspective on such fine grammar. As for the anime, if the how they pronounce it can be found in English, it will certainly be taken into consideration. Until then, we'll go with English grammar and English grammar alone. .Seshat. 06:01, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Like Evny said, the English anime has only had the first half done; Asian Branch isn't visited until the second half... .Seshat. 06:10, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

The whole time I was talking about the manga grammar being unreliable, I was talking about VIZ; since I own all of the manga, unless we're referring to recent chapters I don't even taken fan scanilations into consideration. As for the anime, I don't watch it. You'd have to ask someone who does (I think Evny does... In which case, he/she would have said something by now). .Seshat. 06:23, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Using the kanji from the Fanbook, they would pronounce "Asia(n) Branch" as "Ajia shibu". The thing you have to understand is Japanese characters don't distinguish between proper nouns, like Asia, and adjectives, like Asian, when they both have the same root word (in this case, Asia). They pronounce America as America, but when they refer to an American person, they don't use the English equivalent of "American", they, literally, call an American an "American person" (Amerika-jin). That kind of grammar (as in, the America to American thing) is only used in English; Japanese doesn't do that, so this is a very difficult subject to translate literally. .Seshat. 06:59, April 20, 2011 (UTC)